Fader button with button trigger

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AmpdEntmt
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Fader button with button trigger

Post by AmpdEntmt »

I'm not entirely sure if what i'm trying to do is possible but it seems logical in my mind. Here's what i'm trying to accomplish:

- I want to change the strobe rate of a Martin Atomic 3000 DMX using a knob on my Novation LaunchControl midi controller.
- I DO NOT want the strobe to start when i twist the knob from 0% up to the desired rate.
- I want to be able to set the strobe rate using the knob and then trigger the strobe with a separate button on the controller.

I have tried this using the midi to DMX function to control the strobe rate, and then use a midi button trigger to trigger the scene but i haven't had any success thus far. Does anyone have any ideas as to how i can make this happen?
support
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Re: Fader button with button trigger

Post by support »

Sorry but it is not possible to manage one button with two different midi messages.
The Lighting Controller
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Re: Fader button with button trigger

Post by MTF Showtechnic »

Hi,
I think that can be done with Atomic in 3 or 4 channel DMX Mode.
Here a description like I would do:
Your rotary knob at Launch Control send CC Messages (Continious Control), the Button a Note.
Start Sweetlight and goto "File - Preferences - Midi & DMX Patch"
Choose "Midi Input" and click on the button "Learn"
Press your desired button on Launch Control (LC) - you should see the received Midi Note like ch.1 - note.1
Priority as it is "Midi Input"
Write the Brightness & the Flashtime DMX Channels of your Atomic into the field "Output" like 1 + 2 (In 3 Channel Mode Channel 1 & 2)
Click "Add"
Click again on button "Learn"
Turn the desired rotary knob on Launch Control - you should see the received CC Message like ch.1 - cont.1
Write the Flash Rate DMX Channel of your Atomic into the field "Output"
Click "Add"
Close the window and hit "Apply"
Ready - Every time that you push and hold the button on LC you're able to modify the Flashrate with the rotary knob.
If you don't want to hold the button you'll have to modify the Midi Mapping of the Launch Control.
The Launch Control Editor is at Novation's homepage available.
You'll have to modify the button to "Toggle"
Hope this will help a little bit
greetings from germany
scarymike23
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Re: Fader button with button trigger

Post by scarymike23 »

You should be able to do this if, and only if, the speed of the strobe (rate) and the "on state" of the strobe are on two different channels.

Have the button scene control the on state and the know control the rate.
Earl Harvey
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Re: Fader button with button trigger

Post by Earl Harvey »

Try using a Macro for the Trigger? And CC controller for speed controller
MTF Showtechnic
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Re: Fader button with button trigger

Post by MTF Showtechnic »

The Atomic has to be in 3 channel mode. Then it will work - that's what I wrote!
Read the manual 8-)
AmpdEntmt
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Re: Fader button with button trigger

Post by AmpdEntmt »

Thank you for the replies. I ended up doing something similar to what MTF Showtechnic described. Works perfectly, and if anyone is interested on how it was done i can post in more detail.
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