Multiple Random Pages won't work [fixed]

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pablovivi
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Multiple Random Pages won't work [fixed]

Post by pablovivi »

This is related to post:

viewtopic.php?f=29&t=1125

You said it's fixed and sent me to a link explaining that MACROs don't work with random pages.

You misunderstood the problem. Even though I have MACRO buttons in the show I sent to you, the problem is running many "Random Pages" at once. The MACRO Buttons can be used to start many of them at once, but if you start them by hand one at the time you get the same problem. All the lights go crazy and they flicker ON/OFF continuously. This is NOT a MACRO issue.

You have my show and you should be able to reproduce it fairly easy, please let me know...
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Re: Multiple Random Pages won't work

Post by support »

All the lights go crazy ...
Since we do not have your lights, we are not able to see that.
Could you please tell us a procedure to do step by step, and one specific channel to observe (with the dmx bargraph), in order to see the problem ?
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pablovivi
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Re: Multiple Random Pages won't work

Post by pablovivi »

On Live:

-In Page "Heads Shuttr+Dimmer" activate Button "Movers Dimmer 100" and Button "Movers Shutter Open"

-In Page "PreSets" activate Button "Wash 100%" and Button "Scan Shuter Opn" and Button "Mirror Ball Open"

Then go to all "Random Play" pages one at the time and activate any one Button there and let it play.

You'll see the problem soon, the more "Random Play" pages are playing at the time the more it happens. (You can also see it on the 3D model in the Show I sent).

You can see it on all DMX channels I believe, they all blink ON/OFF. For example, look between channels 30 to 40, they should change up and down gradually but they flicker ON/OFF constantly (Again, the 3D model is very clear and mimics the lights pretty well)
pablovivi
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Re: Multiple Random Pages won't work

Post by pablovivi »

Hi there,

Any luck replicating the issue?

Thanks..
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Re: Multiple Random Pages won't work

Post by support »

We see some strange things, but we need some more time to analyse more deeply your lightshow, in order to know if this is a bug or not.
We presently miss time for that, because new software version with new program coming soon.
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pablovivi
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Re: Multiple Random Pages won't work

Post by pablovivi »

OK,

This is what I observed (use as clues to find the issue).

The lights "Flicker" whenever a page that is on "Random Play" or "Chase Play" changes an active button. For example, if I have 2 pages one with "Color Scenes" and one with "Gobo Scenes", whenever the "Color" changes the "Gobo" will flicker and when the "Gobo" changes the "Color" flickers.

Also, whenever channels flicker it's because these channels are set to value zero just for a brief moment right when a "Random Play" or "Chase Play" changes an active button.

I'm pretty sure my show is fine, if I change the buttons by hand I don't see the problem (only when they change automatically), also I use these scenes with software version 5 and they're fine there.
pablovivi
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Re: Multiple Random Pages won't work

Post by pablovivi »

Hi there,

It's been a long time now and I really look forward for a work-around or a fix to this problem. It seems that you had this issue before and you addressed:

14 May 2011 - version 6.27 (with Smartphone application and slider for presets in Live)
- Live - avoid "black" when random/chase playing from one scene to the next scene
- Live - avoid "channel flicker" when switching solo buttons

So it looks like it was fixed on version 6.27? Maybe it was and then the fix got wiped by newer versions? Maybe the problem wasn't completly fixed?

In any case, I'm forced to use version 5 program because of this, and I'd like to be able of using Live in version 6. Please help...
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Re: Multiple Random Pages won't work

Post by Niffo »

Effectively, the problem existed and was fixed but came back after other corrections. It was fixed again last week in the new beta version. Please try it :

viewtopic.php?f=53&t=1232
pablovivi
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Re: Multiple Random Pages won't work

Post by pablovivi »

I tried the beta version and the flickering went away, yeah!

Thank you!
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